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When I started writing fanfic it was mostly based off anime and manga. Then I sort of drifted into fic based off Buffy the Vampire Slayer television show. The biggest work was It Starts With Faith which was also my first fairly large piece of work. And, in my opinion, the shittiest thing I've written. lol. I hate that fic, seriously I do. I've even contemplated going back and fixing it to make it follow canon a little more closely.
Alternate Universe or AU fics are sort of something I love and hate. I love the concept of them but I hate how they get so alternate it's fucking ridiculous. What the hell does that mean, you say? Well, lets use my piece of shit fic ISWF, right? Fucking had Cordelia turned into a psycho ass vampire and went around killing people. Plus I focused a fair amount of attention on making Willow the singer of a band who dated one of her male band members.
I think one of the principal rules of fanfic should be to never ever create originals that suck up major plotlines in the fic and take away a large amount of time and attention from canon characters on the actual show. I also think that just twisting the original plotlines totally or just ignoring them is sort of insult. It's basically like saying okay it's the same character because she has the same name and looks the same so it doesn't matter that I completely changed her personality and her style and her thoughts and all these other things. Because I say it's the character and that's all that fucking matters and this is just fanfic.
Haha. I just told that to someone today actually. It's just fanfic. And it is just fanfic but if you're going to do something, even if it is just something shouldn't you try to do it correctly? Or at least care about what you're doing?
But hey, want to know how you can spot a horrible story? Okay... look at the chapter numbers. If you look at the fic and it says: Journey of the Heart - Chapter 139
Yeahhhhh. No good. lol. Stories need fucking endings. If it just keeps going and going and prattles on with no point it's like fucking life and who wants to read about fucking life? Except in my dinky ass LJ. Oooh. ::Smack!:: No, real life is boring in here too but whatever.
I've been spending most of my fanfic writing time concentrating on All The White Horses which I've tried to make fairly clear is my take on how I wish Dana's cancer storyline had been handled in S3 of The L Word. Which means that yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I am killing Dana. I just plan on doing it in a more developed and intricate manner that leaves people feeling not quite so betrayed about how all of this happened.
Fandom is fucking crazy, you know? I've gotten crazy letters all the time I've written fanfic. All the way back to the craptastic days of It Starts With Faith. I'm sort of used to the craziness and perversely amused by it but lately I've gotten a few on the insane side letters about ATWH which are weirdly comparing me to IC when they are affirmed in my replies that I am killing Dana. Which to me is fucking lame because, okay, I'm a fanfic writer and I didn't create Dana. I'm working with what is given on the canon of the show and changing it to how I wish it had been handled. I mean, I hate that Dana died but Dana dying isn't the source of my rage. It's how they fucking killed her with no development, no attention, and basically no respect for her character or Erin Daniels as an actress and a huge part of the show's popularity and fucking history. That's what I have issue with. Not the fact Dana dies.
But comparing me to IC? Seriously calm the fuck down people.
I'm still writing ATWH and I'm still killing Dana in it because, natch, that's the point of the fic. And I'm still planning on writing a sequel dealing with Alice trying to survive and live without Dana called Keep The Memories which will have Helacious romantic hints. I won't hook them up until the very last chapter of it and I won't have them declaring to be in love with each other. But it will be a nice sort of sad resolution to Alice realizing she has to move on and Dana will always be with her as long as she keeps the memories of their love and life together. It's going to be the same as ATWH at only five chapters and being a one shot.
Somehow the few crazy letters I've gotten about being IC Junior have perversely made me start to contemplate writing an alternate universe end of Season 3 and all of Season 4 for The L Word where Dana doesn't die of cancer. Basically it concentrates on how I think things would've played out in such a situation. Meaning that for once in her life Dana can't run away from this problem. She has to face the fact she has cancer and fight it in order to survive and that's exactly what she does with Alice's help. By the end of S3 she and Alice are back as a couple and she's making great strides towards recovery after being hospitalized in 310 but obviously, in my version that's all that happens. She stays in the hospital but will be released and out of there by the end of S3. Obviously I would bring back Lara as well and put an end to Lard because, well, that shit needs to end. lol. Sorry to her fans but she just made Dana boring for a lot of S3 and that shit isn't acceptable.
Then S4 would be a reflection of S2 Danish but matured. In other words, my S4 would reflect them in their relationship but because of Dana's fight with cancer and their break up and coming back together they're fucking stronger than hell and are now solidly established as "The Rock" relationship of the show. Taking over the parental role that Tibette sort of had in S1 and showing to everyone that they're really just a fantastic couple to look towards for help and inspiration. They'd have quibbles and fights but mostly it'd be a reflection them together as S2 was but far more mature and confident in their romance and their feelings for one another. Plus we'd see Dana moving onto other things professionally.
Perhaps being a commentator for matches and then Alice trying to rebuild burned bridges on the radio and getting her writing career back on track. The only thing about writing this fic is, you know, my love/hate feelings for alternate universes. I'm really not someone who enjoys going against canon anymore. I think a lot of issue I have with them is because of what I talked about before. The fact that I really think my worst writing was alternate universe and I don't want to go back to my worst writing. Particularly after doing ATWH and the sequel which I think could be my best writing.
At the same time, Danish fans have been fucking screwed. Big time. And as a Danish fan and someone who despite being a huge fucking asshole likes to make other people happy I would really like to write this fic and, you know, try to make the Danish fans sort of happy with it. Though I'm doubting how effective that would be but yeah. I also just have this bad taste in my mouth about writing alternate universe again.
Plus I love Helacious. I mean, that's clear. I named Helacious. Of course I love them. lol. Duh prize, lets give it to me, right? Or something.
Though I could write heavy Helacious friendship in the AU Danish fic and I could have Dana being jealous of Helena which would really be fucking delicious to write. Then Dana sort of consoling/advising Shane after the wedding fallout. Although I wonder if Shane would propose to Carmen if Dana doesn't die? Hmm. They fucking screwed over Carmen almost as bad as Dana this season. She turned into an evil snob out of nowhere.
Anyway, those are my ponderings right now about fanfic. Commentary anyone? Yes? No? Maybe so? rofl. My mom taught me that phrase and it's super fun to say. But do let me know what you think if you even care about this shit. Which I'm doubting a lot of people are. But whatever. I prattle in here. It's what I do.
I'm still thoroughly addicted to listening to Mylene Farmer so I'm going to link another one of her songs. This one is just the most mesmerizing thing ever. I adore it.
Nobody Knows (Own Burden Doudou's Remix) by Mylene Farmer:
http://s56.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YTPVKLPP9CRL0IWROR8H7FSQ8
Alternate Universe or AU fics are sort of something I love and hate. I love the concept of them but I hate how they get so alternate it's fucking ridiculous. What the hell does that mean, you say? Well, lets use my piece of shit fic ISWF, right? Fucking had Cordelia turned into a psycho ass vampire and went around killing people. Plus I focused a fair amount of attention on making Willow the singer of a band who dated one of her male band members.
I think one of the principal rules of fanfic should be to never ever create originals that suck up major plotlines in the fic and take away a large amount of time and attention from canon characters on the actual show. I also think that just twisting the original plotlines totally or just ignoring them is sort of insult. It's basically like saying okay it's the same character because she has the same name and looks the same so it doesn't matter that I completely changed her personality and her style and her thoughts and all these other things. Because I say it's the character and that's all that fucking matters and this is just fanfic.
Haha. I just told that to someone today actually. It's just fanfic. And it is just fanfic but if you're going to do something, even if it is just something shouldn't you try to do it correctly? Or at least care about what you're doing?
But hey, want to know how you can spot a horrible story? Okay... look at the chapter numbers. If you look at the fic and it says: Journey of the Heart - Chapter 139
Yeahhhhh. No good. lol. Stories need fucking endings. If it just keeps going and going and prattles on with no point it's like fucking life and who wants to read about fucking life? Except in my dinky ass LJ. Oooh. ::Smack!:: No, real life is boring in here too but whatever.
I've been spending most of my fanfic writing time concentrating on All The White Horses which I've tried to make fairly clear is my take on how I wish Dana's cancer storyline had been handled in S3 of The L Word. Which means that yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I am killing Dana. I just plan on doing it in a more developed and intricate manner that leaves people feeling not quite so betrayed about how all of this happened.
Fandom is fucking crazy, you know? I've gotten crazy letters all the time I've written fanfic. All the way back to the craptastic days of It Starts With Faith. I'm sort of used to the craziness and perversely amused by it but lately I've gotten a few on the insane side letters about ATWH which are weirdly comparing me to IC when they are affirmed in my replies that I am killing Dana. Which to me is fucking lame because, okay, I'm a fanfic writer and I didn't create Dana. I'm working with what is given on the canon of the show and changing it to how I wish it had been handled. I mean, I hate that Dana died but Dana dying isn't the source of my rage. It's how they fucking killed her with no development, no attention, and basically no respect for her character or Erin Daniels as an actress and a huge part of the show's popularity and fucking history. That's what I have issue with. Not the fact Dana dies.
But comparing me to IC? Seriously calm the fuck down people.
I'm still writing ATWH and I'm still killing Dana in it because, natch, that's the point of the fic. And I'm still planning on writing a sequel dealing with Alice trying to survive and live without Dana called Keep The Memories which will have Helacious romantic hints. I won't hook them up until the very last chapter of it and I won't have them declaring to be in love with each other. But it will be a nice sort of sad resolution to Alice realizing she has to move on and Dana will always be with her as long as she keeps the memories of their love and life together. It's going to be the same as ATWH at only five chapters and being a one shot.
Somehow the few crazy letters I've gotten about being IC Junior have perversely made me start to contemplate writing an alternate universe end of Season 3 and all of Season 4 for The L Word where Dana doesn't die of cancer. Basically it concentrates on how I think things would've played out in such a situation. Meaning that for once in her life Dana can't run away from this problem. She has to face the fact she has cancer and fight it in order to survive and that's exactly what she does with Alice's help. By the end of S3 she and Alice are back as a couple and she's making great strides towards recovery after being hospitalized in 310 but obviously, in my version that's all that happens. She stays in the hospital but will be released and out of there by the end of S3. Obviously I would bring back Lara as well and put an end to Lard because, well, that shit needs to end. lol. Sorry to her fans but she just made Dana boring for a lot of S3 and that shit isn't acceptable.
Then S4 would be a reflection of S2 Danish but matured. In other words, my S4 would reflect them in their relationship but because of Dana's fight with cancer and their break up and coming back together they're fucking stronger than hell and are now solidly established as "The Rock" relationship of the show. Taking over the parental role that Tibette sort of had in S1 and showing to everyone that they're really just a fantastic couple to look towards for help and inspiration. They'd have quibbles and fights but mostly it'd be a reflection them together as S2 was but far more mature and confident in their romance and their feelings for one another. Plus we'd see Dana moving onto other things professionally.
Perhaps being a commentator for matches and then Alice trying to rebuild burned bridges on the radio and getting her writing career back on track. The only thing about writing this fic is, you know, my love/hate feelings for alternate universes. I'm really not someone who enjoys going against canon anymore. I think a lot of issue I have with them is because of what I talked about before. The fact that I really think my worst writing was alternate universe and I don't want to go back to my worst writing. Particularly after doing ATWH and the sequel which I think could be my best writing.
At the same time, Danish fans have been fucking screwed. Big time. And as a Danish fan and someone who despite being a huge fucking asshole likes to make other people happy I would really like to write this fic and, you know, try to make the Danish fans sort of happy with it. Though I'm doubting how effective that would be but yeah. I also just have this bad taste in my mouth about writing alternate universe again.
Plus I love Helacious. I mean, that's clear. I named Helacious. Of course I love them. lol. Duh prize, lets give it to me, right? Or something.
Though I could write heavy Helacious friendship in the AU Danish fic and I could have Dana being jealous of Helena which would really be fucking delicious to write. Then Dana sort of consoling/advising Shane after the wedding fallout. Although I wonder if Shane would propose to Carmen if Dana doesn't die? Hmm. They fucking screwed over Carmen almost as bad as Dana this season. She turned into an evil snob out of nowhere.
Anyway, those are my ponderings right now about fanfic. Commentary anyone? Yes? No? Maybe so? rofl. My mom taught me that phrase and it's super fun to say. But do let me know what you think if you even care about this shit. Which I'm doubting a lot of people are. But whatever. I prattle in here. It's what I do.
I'm still thoroughly addicted to listening to Mylene Farmer so I'm going to link another one of her songs. This one is just the most mesmerizing thing ever. I adore it.
Nobody Knows (Own Burden Doudou's Remix) by Mylene Farmer:
http://s56.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2YTPVKLPP9CRL0IWROR8H7FSQ8
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anyway, you know that I didn't like that Dana died, and I really cannot stand the way they handled the whole story line, so I am all for an alternate universe with Dana alive. The whole Danish-Lard triangle left me a bit confused, since I like all three of them, just not really together. I really thought that Dana was in love with Lara (and what the fuck happened to her character this season?), but she loves Alice as well. So I am leaning towards Helacious, and I take Lara off your hands. no biggie!
I can't shake the feeling off that Lara is being set up as a replacement for Dana - as a main character next season, and even though I think that Lauren Lee Smith is cute, her character is simply too one dimensional and uninvolved with the rest of the gang. but then they made Helena an honorary scoobie...
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I'm not sure what the hell is with Dana and Lara. I mean, it seemed like she was in love with Lara at the start of S3 but by the end it was all about Dana in love with Alice for me. How Dana acted in the start of S3 totally goes against how she acted latter part of the season. Then again, the show is never with making sense, is it? But since I find Lard momentually boring I choose to ignore the start of S3 and see Dana as being in love with Alice only. lol. Because boring is just something I cannot forgive in the fictional or even in the real world. Boring is baddddd.
Dude... okay. LLS is cute but please lord no. I don't want her back for S4. Must I reiterate her habit of making shit boring? I pray that Lice doesn't occur because Alice will be tainted with Lara's stink of boring like Dana was. Blerh... nononono! Bad!
Helena being a part of the group of friends was sudden but I don't really care because, hello, I love Helena. But that stuff with Dylan and her falling so fast and hard was a bit lame. But man does Rachel Shelley KILL when it comes to reveal subtle but heartbreaking torment, you know? Kicks ass.
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btw, I think the line of the chart will go from Lara to Alice the next time - either next or in the last episode.
And as weird and off as it might sound, I don't think that Alice was in love with Dana in the last episodes, she loves her - definitely, but I really thought she was over her. But maybe I just don't want to see Alice going through the whole ordeal again.
Helena was gorgeous the whole season, Rachel Shelley really knows how to convey so much - I assume much more than IC intended - with just her eyes or her gestures. Besides, she is jawdropping beautiful this season.
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Rachel is seriously gorgeous. It's almost criminal. lol.
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I have no idea how to interpret the whole Alice - Dana thing in the last couple of episodes... it can go either way, since it is a tv show Dana will be totally forgotten next season I reckon.
Of course I would like you to write the AU story, no matter how you pair them up.
Whenever RS is on the screen I am close to swooning - and I don't easily swoon. It is definitely criminal. and she looks awesome with almost no makeup as well.
Just my 2 cents worth
P/s: I loved the 3 installment of your "All the white horses" fanfic. Some comments I had after reading (pardon me): -
The angst was great, and the personality developments are very well-done. It seems a little like what you liked to write, but I think there was a little bit of rambling in between, and I felt it most during the "sex-in-the-toilet" and even "dinner with mum and dad" bit. A suggestion: Some editing may be required by another friend/fellow fic writer, to retain what tells the story and what's just fun to write. *Just my 2 cents worth* Great job though! Kudos to you for elaborating on what IC missed out! :)
Luv
Kel w/o LJ
Re: Just my 2 cents worth
As for editing with other fic authors, uhm... that doesn't tend to work. I don't really have luck with people giving me comprehensive fanfic. People say they want to help but all I end up usually doing is sending them the fic early and getting minor things back. I have Christina who is fabulous with things like that but she's busy and I wait until she has time to send me a letter. Plus she saw nothing wrong with the two scenes you mentioned. lol. Anyway!
If you want or could explain further about what was wrong in those two scenes please give me an email at dreiser7@yahoo.com
But if you don't have the time or the inclination, no worries. I can tell you right here and now that scenes that I put into my fics, unless it's incredibly short or fluff chapter, are all there for specific reasons. But yeah, I do tend to prattle, shocking I know, and stuff should be cut down often.
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Sorry to hear you got nasty IC Jnr notes, that sucks. That's really unappreciative. Sure, killing Dana isn't my preference but you're doing a wonderful job of giving it some emotional resonance, which it sure as shit didn't have on the show!
Please do the AU fic you're proposing, despite your aversion! It would mean the absolute world to me and I'm sure all the other Danish fans who just had the rug completely pulled out from under them.
And really, the AU fics that really kinda suck are the ones where people just completely transplant the characters into ridiculous non-canon situations. The one you describe would pretty much be canon... quasi-canon?... as the characters would be "themselves" in their regular world. I definitely won't be watching S4 so would love an alternate and much more palatable version of some sort!
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My favourite songs from Cendres De Lune (1986) and Ainsi Soit Je (1988):
http://rapidshare.de/files/15631271/cdlasj.zip.html
My favourite songs from L'autre (1991) and Anamorphosée (1995):
http://rapidshare.de/files/15632073/la.zip.html
My favourite songs from Innamoramento (1999) and Avant Que L'ombre... (2005):
http://rapidshare.de/files/15632709/iaql.zip.html
My favourite songs from Les Mots (2001):
http://rapidshare.de/files/15633625/lm.zip.html
More fan remixes:
http://rapidshare.de/files/15634932/fr.zip.html
Sorry about the one download per hour limit at rapidshare.de, but yousendit.com hates me and rapidshare.fr has blocked everything Mylène related (and I am too lazy to rename files).
And yes, "Nobody Knows" is the best song ever. I have been obsessing that remix as well. Now, you might not want to continue to read this because I might scare you with my crazy-fan behaviour. But we made a banner and took it with us to France for her concerts. It was even on the news there. It says "Nobody Knows MYLENE FARMER fans de Suéde 2006". It's quite fitting really, because that woman is so mysterious. It was great though and we had help to hold it when she sang the song. That alone was worth the 14 hours of queuing.
Anyway, proof of our geekiness:
I was supposed to end my ranting now, but I just checked a Mylène forum I sometimes frequent and some guy has uploaded almost all of her videos (also to rapidshare.de). I would definitely try and grab a few if I was you, because not only is she incredibly hot, her videos are nothing short of amazing.
Je Te Rends Ton Amour
http://rapidshare.de/files/9601390/Mylene_Farmer_-_Je_te_rends_ton_amour.mpeg.html
Watch this one first and tell me if it is not the most disturbing music video you have ever seen. Naturally it was banned from TV. I love it to bits, it is so sick and so beautiful at the very same time.
You will find links to the other uploaded videos here:
http://www.mf-international.com/viewtopic.php?t=3332
My favourites are "California", "Fuck Them All", "Innamoramento" (live), "Cue Mon Coeur Lache", "Sans Logique"... um... all of them!
// Anna
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Sincerely, Allaine
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And who says books don't have an effect on us, eh? clearly the book has influenced her mind. lol.
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But who's IC?
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I'm happy with every bit of Danish I can get, so if you feel like you wanna write some AU stuff, please do so. I'd looking forward to it, for sure.
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1. Ignores the likes/dislikes of the cast.
2. Ignores the likes/dislikes of the fans.
3. Writes storylines which have plot points which go against other storylines and make no sense.
4. Worships the members of a really crappy band named Betty.
It's not good to be compared to her. lol. Trust me.
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'm jes' sayin'. S'good to pay attention. >.>
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And the killing storyline she used was, again, underdeveloped and rushed. This isn't really one of those situations where the fans are more crazy than the creator. She's way ahead of us in that arena. At least, that's what I think.
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you know how i feel about this whole miserable thing so no need to reiterate, but yeah just for the public record: dreiser does not equal "IC times 2". Conversely, the square root of IC does not equal dreiser. Class dismissed.
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